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Poster: billydlions Date: Feb 15, 2010 7:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Release: 7/7/89

Cliff, Whereas I do not disagree with what you are saying I'm sure they (Rhino) only care about what sells. The fact of the matter is there are probably more heads out there that want to buy shows in their era and for the majority this is going to the the 80's and 90's. Like I pointed out the other day, there are only 7 reviews here on the archive for a show of pure Jerry brillance, 12-10-72, and at the same time 40 reviews for a terrible Vince show in the 90's. I dont mind an 80's release, but at least make it the early 80's. Speaking of 12-10-72, now that's a show I would purchase...perhaps add the best of those late November shows (11-22-72?). Also, the sound better be a big upgrade. Charlie's remaster of the Fillmore 1971 shows sounds better than most of my Dick's Picks.

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Poster: Single Malt Date: Feb 15, 2010 7:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Release: 7/7/89

Well said. It only makes sense that the target market are touchheads- probably 40 years old and younger. Old people don't buy as much stuff as young people.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Feb 15, 2010 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Release: 7/7/89

I'm not convinced sales have anything to do with their selections.

These official releases only sell about 20,000 units each, regardless of which era they are from. Hardly enough to keep Natasha in shoes and accessories with Weir's cut.

So why not give the hard core fans what they want?

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 15, 2010 1:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Release: 7/7/89

Money seems to be a logical catalyst for these selections. I think the willingness to spend, spend, spend(you must consume!!) lives within the realm of the touchhead.

We're talking about ravenous east-coast heads who are just young enough to have avoided the, "I just lost my retirement on Wall St." recession. Many of the same people who have a 52" plasma, a BMW with a $499 monthly payment, an upside down mortgage in arrears and $45K in credit card debt and won't think twice about dropping the plastic to buy their fave '89 show from DC. They are my generation and they are idiots.





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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Feb 16, 2010 4:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Release: 7/7/89

I don't disagree or doubt, Cliff, but simply wonder how you know the number of CDs they manufacture these days. I've often wondered how large the market really is.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Feb 15, 2010 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Release: 7/7/89

another thing to consider in the selection process is the fact they are releasing a DVD as well. Not sure when they started taping all of the gigs but I remember it was 1987 that I first noticed and most of them were outdoor shows. It's not surprising that the view from the vaults have been Shoreline, Anaheim/Oakland, Three Rivers and RFK. I'd love to see a DVD from Roosevelt 74 but I'm pretty sure one doesn't exist. As for the Philly gig, I listened a while back and wasn't floored. I do remember Blow away and the Scarlet>fire being memorable though.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 15, 2010 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Release: 7/7/89

I'll second what Lobster said. Actually there is a very short time that they were filming all the shows. I'm sure they would have released something from a different era or even tour if they had it. Anyway, I'm happy see that it will be released and despite the comments of those who have no appreciation for the later era this is a very strong and worthy show.

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Poster: mickmac Date: Feb 15, 2010 1:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Release: 7/7/89

Can't say I am overly thrilled with this potential release seeing how many other options are available.But once again I will purchase like I have done every commercial release since the first album.It is more of a disorder than anything anymore I guess.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Feb 15, 2010 2:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Release: 7/7/89

The other thing to think about is the overall quality of the video for the entire show. They could be choosing these gigs based on that fact that it's the best recorded or filmed shows they have. As one guy on setlists.net said about this Philly show..."not the best show ever, but not bad either".

Not exactly the credentials I'd look for in a release but it may be the best they have.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 15, 2010 8:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Release: 7/7/89

Here is a quote from Lemuix in a 2001 interview. ftp://gdead.berkeley.edu/pub/gdead/interviews/David.Lemieux.March-2001
"There is little archived film of the early shows, except for outtakes
from The Grateful Dead Movie, which was shot over
four nights in 1974. From 1988 onward, there are 75 complete shows
plus other peripheral video."

He goes on to say in 2004, "With video, we have so
little that the selection process is really a matter of going
through the 20-25 releasable concerts we have and determining what
is the right release for the time."
in this interview, ftp://gdead.berkeley.edu/pub/gdead/interviews/DavidLemieux.12.16.2004
So it seems that there really isn't much in the video section that is releasable. Out of that stuff this is probably the best they have.